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Some thoughts about the theistic objections:

1. Many Theists are committed to a view of evil that sees evil as an extrinsic feature, like the privation or rearrangement theories of evil. So, maybe the evil of an action is not preserved when you rearrange.

2. There might be some theories of evil that preclude pointless suffering in principle. I need to do more research on this point.

3. We could amend the principle so that if there is a necessary being with the power and inclination to prevent something, then we cannot rearrange to get that. Here some reasons to not think that this is ad hoc: I. The being in necessary, meaning it spans all possible worlds. This would ensure that it's effects would span across all possible worlds, and so it limits the scope of possibility through its necessity. II. If we construe this being to be the source of all other things, and possibility is defined in terms of causal power, then it just follows that if the being can't produce the effect, then it's not possible. Thoughts: https://robkoons.net/the-rigorous-thomist/defending-the-grim-reaper

4. We can change our principle to natures rather than intrinsic properties. So, we could then say that suffering isn't really an object with a nature, so we don't have to worry about it. But, we could create the paradox by saying there's an object with a specific nature that requires it to perform the action when it exists at a particular time, and an object of that nature exists for each day of an infinite past.

5. Maybe you can't change the individual intrinsic states to that much required by the argument to get off the ground. So, they are independent but that doesn't mean you can change them individually.

About just denying the contradiction:

It seems like it would be similar to someone denying a thought experiment is possible that would create a problem in their moral theory. They would just deny the thought experiment is possible because it creates a problem for their moral theory. But, we use thought experiments in a wide range of applications all the time. If we accepted that principle, then thought experiments would not help in an argument. So, this principle contradicts the widespread use of thought experiments in other domains.

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Michael's avatar

How do you get from a finite history (which you defined in causal, not temporal terms) to a finite past (the name of this post)? Is it just an argument for a finite causal past?

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